Friday, May 28, 2010
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AUSTEN'S PRIDE AND PREJUDICE
SHAKESPEARE'S: OTHELLO
JANE AUSTEN
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE
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I believe that most of the characters in the book retain there personality and beliefs and some characters such as Darcy may have changed there mind about a few things, but he still retains his personality from the beginning of the book.
ReplyDeleteNot a bad start, but remember that your opinion must be supported by facts from the book. Who are the "most of the characters" that "retain there (spelling)personality and beliefs" and what do Darcy and "some characters" change? Support is MIA.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth Bennet herself changed substantially throughout the novel. Since the beginning of Pride and Prejudice, Elizabeth was quite different from most of the girls in her family. Although she cared about finding love and getting married like her mother and her sisters, it was not at the top of her list at that point in time. When she first met Darcy, she made immediate judgments about his wealth and “abominable pride.” She listened to other’s opinions on him rather than her own. According to the folks of Hertfordshire, Mr. Darcy was dishonest, proud, rude, and disagreeable. But as their meetings gradually became more frequent, she truly got to know the real Darcy. Elizabeth’s feelings for Darcy changed after he gave her his letter that disproved all that she THOUGHT she knew about him. She then began to see the real, genuine, agreeable qualities of Darcy and eventually fell in love. Even though her values and beliefs did not change, her heart and the way she judged others did. She overcame her own pride and her past prejudices of Darcy in order to find her way in love.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe that any of the characters ever really alter themselves in the novel and that they do "in essentials" remain much as they ever were. It only seems that the characters change because the others learn the truth behind them which creates a new outlook on the characters. For example, in the case of Elizabeth and Darcy, Darcy wasn't willing to give Elizabeth a chance and instead pushed her to the side. Everyone was then given the impression that he was arrogant and that gave way for people to believe the accusations made against Darcy by people like Wickham. Elizabeth chooses to believe Wickham which then makes him seem like a honest and trustworthy person. When Elizabeth learns the truth behind both Darcy and Wickham and that Wickham is the true bad guy, the way both characters are viewed changes drastically. No one ever really changed they just gained or lost trust.
ReplyDeleteNone of the characters change in essentials in the novel. They will always remain the same, although Elizabeth was also correct when she said you can observe something new in them. The only thing that changed with the majority of characters was the way they were viewed. This doesn't mean however that they themselves were internally changed. Wickham, for example, was viewed as a kind gentlemen who was wronged by Mr. Darcey. In the end however we find out that Wickham was untruthful and that actually on numerous occasions the Darceys had repaid debts to cover Wickham's tracks. Once Elizabeth finds out about this her opinion of Wickham and Darcey changes however that doesn't mean that they themselves changed. Another opinion that changed was Lady Catherine's of Elizabeth. She believed that Elizabeth was a charming girl until she discovered the possibility of marriage. It was then that she became vicious, arrogant, and rude in her treatment and commanding of Elizabeth to refuse marriage.
ReplyDeleteThe characters "in essentials" remain much as they ever were. It is not the characters that ever change but the way the characters are perceived that changes. In the beginning of the novel, Darcy is viewed as an arrogant, proud man who is not pleasant to be around. When Darcy seems unengaged and uninterested at the ball the Bennet family decides they want no more to do with him. Later the family is told by Wickham that Darcy is a proud man who ruined his life and the family believes him because of their first impression of Darcy. As the story continues Elizabeth begins to see the real Darcy and learns that he is not as proud and unpleasant as she once thought and over time the others began to feel the same way. Darcy himself did not change. The way Darcy was viewed changed as more information about him was revealed
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kelsey and Tyler. Although Elizabeth and Darcy's views on one another change throughout the novel, and even though Jane has struggles believeing in Bingley at times, all of the characters seem to stay true to themselves and their beliefs. Mrs.Bennet stays obsessed with her five daughters' weddings and full of nerves, Mr.Bennet stays sarcastic and humored by his wife's nerves, Elizabeth stays sensible, Jane stays kind, Kitty and Lydia stay boy crazy, and Mary stays knowledgable. However, some characters do begin to be viewed differently by the reader throughout the book. For instance, Darcy is first perceived as arrogant, prideful, and rude to the people of Netherfield. His attitude is hard to get past, but as he becomes more familiar with Eliza Bennet and the reader gets accustomed to his ways, Darcy's faults can be looked over because of his growing love for Lizzy. Also, Wickham started off as the total package kind of guy. He was admired by all the ladies, and seemed very respectable. But when it was found out that his horror stories about Darcy's mistreatment of him was wrong, he could no longer be trusted by the reader or other characters. Wickham was always a liar, it just took more information to find that out. So, in essentials, the characters remain much the same as they ever were.
ReplyDeleteIn Pride and Prejudice, the characters in my opinion remain "in the essentials" and hardly change. Yes, if i had to pick any one character who I would think to have changed the most I would pick Elizabeth, but Elizabeth was always sensible and reserved to talk to Mr. Darcy, but when she realized that Darcy wasn't as conceited as people viewed him before she changed her opinion of him. Throughout this entire story many characters true colors are revealed and this changes the way they are perceived, it does not however change the way that they act. Another example would be Mr. Wickham. He was described as a very handsome yet manipulative militia officer who may seem perfect on the outside, but has dark secrets o the inside. All of these secrets end up getting revealed which changes the way in which people viewed him.
ReplyDeletePeople remain much as they are. People's view may change of the person due to their familiarity with a person but that does not mean that the person them self changes. We do at first see Darcy as arrogant and "evil" but when we get to know him we tend to change his ways to more of a "gentleman" even though he has stayed the same Darcy since we met him. We only seen the arrogant side of him at first and not the loving, sensitive side. The more we get to know a person the more they change in our view, not in their personality or essentials.
ReplyDeleteJena, Dillon, Kelsey, and Tyler have it right in my opinion. Throughout Pride and Prejudice when it comes to morals, beliefs and other key factors all of the characters, for the most part remained the same. It is only our observations of characters like Mr. Darcy and Wickham that change as the novel progresses.
ReplyDeleteWhen we first come across Mr. Darcy he is full of pride, arrogance, and rudeness. The people of Netherfield think so as well. But as the story progresses and we are able to see Darcy for his full potential, our views of him change from bad to good. He may be the same person, with the same views and actions, but now he is seen to be loving.
Another example is Wickham. When we are first introduced to him, he seems like the perfect gentlemen. He is the man every girl wanted to be with. He had the looks, and he had the charm. However, when we learn more about him, our views alter. Instead of this charming character, we get a liar.
To Conclude, Lizzy hit the nail on the head when she said ". . . people themselves alter so much, that there is something new to be observed in them for ever." People never change who they are, they only change how others view them.
I agree that the characters don't change, but the way we see them changes. For example, in the beginning of the book, Mr. Darcy comes off as proud and rude when he says Elizabeth is "tolerable, but not handsome enough to tempt me." The people of Netherfield also see him as proud and rude. By the end of the book, we see Darcy as more of a good guy and a great match for Elizabeth. Mr. Wickham is also a good example. We first see him as the all around perfect guy, but later, we find out he is a liar and can't be trusted.
ReplyDeleteWhile many of the character’s thoughts and opinions change throughout the novel, their qualities and characteristics as individuals remain undoubtedly the same. Elizabeth, for instance, is a strong-willed woman with a vibrant personality. She has firm opinions and doesn’t back down easily. From her very first interaction between Mr. Darcy and herself to his proposal to her, Elizabeth’s obstinate manner shines through. As the novel continues on, Elizabeth’s opinion of Darcy changes drastically, but her personality remains constant. She realizes the she loves Darcy and doesn’t back down in winning him back. From the beginning of the novel, it is clear that Lydia was bound to do something risky with the hints given from her wild behavior. She doesn’t change as a person and her elopement to Wickham proves this. Darcy, against popular belief, never matched up to his negative reputation. He was thought to be “proud” and disrespectful. As the novel progresses, Elizabeth, as well as the other characters, slowly realizes that Darcy’s reputation had been false the entire time. It wasn’t Darcy, but the way that people perceived Darcy that changed.
ReplyDelete"in essentials" the characters remain the same, so i too agree with kelsey,jena,dillion and some of the rest. The characters dont truly change just the way people veiw them do. For example Wickham was seen as a handsome, fortune gentleman but in the end we all came to find out that all along he was a liar and in major debts. Although that did change Elizabeths opinion, it didnt change him as a person inside, he has always been that same guy just no one ever could tell.
ReplyDeleteThe Characters in the book change substantially. Elizabeth, the protagonist, learns to overlook her prejudices of Mr. Darcy. Elizabeth believes that she can judge a persons character honestly; however, she is influenced by vanity and judges people brashly. As the novel progresses Elizabeth is able to look past Mr. Darcy’s pride and see that he is well-mannered and virtuous. Unlike her mother Elizabeth is not concerned with Mr. Darcy’s social status or wealth. Mr. Darcy puts aside his pride once Elizabeth turns down his marriage proposal. Darcy becomes more humble and outspoken and learns to embrace the warmth that Elizabeth eyes have carried.
ReplyDeleteIn Pride and Prejudice no Character changes much but if you would analyze each character the most prodomanent vhanges would have come from Elithabeth Bennet. Elithabeth had the dream of marrying and having a wonderful like just as all her sibling but she wasnt wanting that life now she would rather listen to her mother tell how she is the best out of the rest of the girls. Elithebeth had no idea that that would change soon as Darcy came. Elithabeth at first judged Darcy by his cover, making him seem evil and stuck up do to his wealth but as they became more aquinted at the dances an so forth she say that she was wrong and changed again to judging him as lovely and someone that she was in love with.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the characters do not "in essential" change. The ideas the character have and ther opinions changes a few times, but overall the characters themselves do not change. For Example, Elizabeth Bennet began the story as a different type of woman. She was very hard headed and didn't want to marry just for money. Elizabeth kep that idea through the entire story. Also, Elizabeth did alter her opinion of Darcy, and Darcy altered his opinion of her, throughout the story, but they never changed as people, they just began to love each other for who they were.
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